Daniel:   Scaughdt, you choose to not go along with some of the words not written in red and to go along with others not written in red … I had a boss that was gay.  He told me that when he saw an attractive couple he didn’t know if he would rather be with the man or the woman … He told me that he knew that he would have to deal with God … In his heart he knew he was in trouble … His heart told him that he was … He confided in me because he saw me as his friend … He did not see me as his enemy or his judge … The result was that he lost a marriage with his wife and that his son had to grow up in a broken family … Many hearts were broken … Choices were made … He listened to an unclean spirit that promoted a lie in his life … It went against the order of God in more than one way.

 

Scaughdt:    Dan, first of all, the man you mention in this example is not a homosexual, but a bisexual (at least as far as you described him here, though I would wager that he actually always was a homosexual, and was merely afraid to tell you or his wife so outright), and bisexuality (which does by definition involve conscious choice) is not relevant to the discussion at hand – homosexuality is (namely, men who are solely attracted to men &/or women who are solely attracted to women).

 

Secondly, once again the sin involved here is sex – not homosexuality itself (or bisexuality itself, for that matter).  And because the mortal sin is lust-based, it is bigoted of you & yours to single out homosexual (or even in this case bisexual) lust when many other lust-based mortal sins are far more prevalent in our society (e.g. Deuteronomy 22:22 + Matthew 5:27-28), and it is hypocritical of you & yours to do so when your own lusting “cups” (i.e. your own bodies and their sinful desires) are not yet fully clean (see Matthew 23:12 + Matthew 23:25-26)!

(Seeing as how many corduroy skirts are made of mixed fibers,
it actually is often a biblical sin to wear them … see Leviticus 19:19)

Daniel:  For a person who knows little to nothing about me — and who promotes the idea of not judging others, you make a lot of crazy accusations that are not truth-based … I don’t hate sinners, for one … Are you really going to lecture me on cleaning my own cup and tell me about lust? … Really? … Let it go … I wish you no harm … I don’t need any insight from a professional antagonist … This whole time I have seen you as someone who wants to accuse rather than share insight … I don’t have a desire to find a way to make something wrong into something right.  That is the lawyer inside your brain that does that to you … I don’t wish to argue with you … I don’t hate anyone … We have all fallen short of His glory, and the power of His blood saves sinners like you and me … So leave it alone.

 

Scaughdt:   What an odd comment, my Friend … I never once said that you hated sinners – merely that you were bigoted & hypocritical in the way you deal with them. Simply as a matter of objective fact, you singling out homosexuals as sinners (to the degree that you do so) is quite biblically inaccurate, you singling out homosexual lust (as opposed to the dozens of other lust-based mortal sins which are far more prevalent in our society) is indeed quite prejudiced (a.k.a. bigoted), and you calling out the sins of others – homosexual or not – while you yourself are still steeped in sin (as you just now again admitted) is indeed quite hypocritical.
As far as me “lecturing you” on cleaning your own cup before criticizing the dirty cups of others, I think you are confusing me with Jesus Christ in Matthew 23:25-26 (a verse I cited in my last comment), as he is actually the one who is encouraging you to do so! … I have never felt that you have meant me harm, my Friend, and I certainly have never meant you any … I have merely chosen to stand up for a class of people who you & yours have chosen to denigrate, and I have merely chosen to do so by showing you the simple Truth that you do not need to persecute or criticize them at all in order to be a “good Christian” – by showing you & yours that there is indeed a “greater God” available to you all, should you wish to seek, find, and then worship Him instead.
And as far as you seeing me as someone “who wants to accuse more than share insight”, I do not see it that way at all (indeed, just the opposite!), and have no problem at all in letting the readers of this thread be the judge thereof … And if they do decide to do so, I have faith that almost all of them will conclude (if they have the “eyes to See” and the “ears to Hear”, of course) that your inability to see the massive amounts of Biblical insights I have offered so far might very well rest more on your shoulders than on mine.  Indeed, I am afraid it is quite clearly you & yours who are the ones providing far more accusation than insight, my Friend.  Why, even in this latest comment you had the outright gall – when speaking of the millions of homosexuals of the world – to state, “I don’t have a desire to find a way to make something wrong into something right.”  It really doesn’t get any more arrogant or any more accusatory than that, my Friend, now does it?

In closing, I think if you truly believe that “we have all fallen short of His glory”, then you, Dan, will start acting accordingly – first & foremost by ceasing your denigration of others, and secondly by focusing instead on correcting your own faults & flaws, whatever they might be.   That is essentially what I have been saying in this thread, and that – in honor of Jesus Christ, who said essentially exactly the same thing – is what I will continue to say …

 

Peace to you & yours, my Friend … S
“Do not judge, so that you may not be judged … Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own? … You hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly enough to remove the speck from your neighbor’s … Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Whoever becomes humble like this young child is the greatest in the Kingdom”  ~ Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:1-2 + 18:3-4)
“All who exalt themselves will be humbled, but all who humble themselves will be exalted” ~ Jesus Christ (Luke 18:14)
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” ~ Jesus Christ (John 8:7)
“You hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup [of others], but inside are full of greed and self-indulgence … First clean the inside of your own cup, so that the outside may also then become truly clean.” ~ Jesus Christ (Matthew 23:25-26)

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